Notes · 2021
Short posts from LinkedIn and X.
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"Digital-i predicted that 50% of European Netflix and Amazon viewing will be to non-English language content by 2030."
No wonder #pivottranslation #indirecttranslation is so prominent in recent research!
https://deadline.com/2021/12/digital-i-report-netflix-amazon-non-english-language-viewing-1234900060/ -
Thank you #WLGreece members! Especially to all the wonderful contributors making our events such a joy and such fantastic learning experiences!
Happy holidays!
#itsallGreektoyou #nosubtitles #womeninlocalization -
Thank you #WLGreece members! Especially to all the wonderful contributors making our events such a joy and such fantastic learning experiences!
#itsallGreektoyou #nosubtitles #womeninlocalization https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1473980037934292992 -
Un manual muy completo, una joya. Gracias @ATRAE_ORG y autores
#Spanish #SubtitlingGuidelines https://twitter.com/Javishuela/status/1473931694583521288 -
Carrying out replication studies is innovative in itself #TranslationStudies https://twitter.com/ASzarkowska/status/1473915110565589004
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I wish for translator recognition, fair rates, self-fulfilment, collaboration, exciting new roles and workfkows! https://twitter.com/zingword/status/1473634689625772033
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Beyond excited with the abstracts we are receiving! https://twitter.com/StavroulaSokoli/status/1472853132132683776
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#CfP deadline approaching!
#Pivot #AudiovisualTranslation: A burning issue for research and training
Special issue of #Perspectives (2023)
http://www.indirectrans.com/ewExternalFiles/Pivot%20AVT_Special%20issue_CFP.pdf -
#subtitle #legibility #readability and #omission https://twitter.com/carol_osullivan/status/1472704774034362382
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Say you are working with a big company, and its CEO says publicly “I don’t think we’re happy with even 10% or 15% of who we work with.” What would you do?
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Mostly true in the sector of #medialocalization. Check out @Nimdzi_Insights & @slatornews latest reports on increased LSP revenues.
Pushing down translator rates is not a sustainable model, as associations repeatedly say @avteur @AVUE_eV @ATRAE_ORG @Subtle_UK
#subtitling #dubbing https://twitter.com/erik_hansson/status/1471597298547400710 -
Getting over "the fear of #subtitles" https://twitter.com/Subtle_UK/status/1470679960708956164
#subtitlingheadlines
https://www.cbr.com/shang-chi-marvel-audiences-subtitles/
RT @ATA_AVDivision with thanks -
Creativity in #medialocalization
Conference videos available
https://web.uniroma1.it/seai/?q=it/node/4029 -
Sometimes you get to #subtitle a show you wouldn't choose to watch (not too much into anime). And you get to love it, find it well made, identify with the characters. And then it gets canceled 😟 https://twitter.com/THR/status/1469084115731419139
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A pricing model that is not fair or sustainable. Seems that #subtitlers have to pay to work there. This company is an @EGAhollywood member, an association which also includes freelancers. Maybe they could talk? https://twitter.com/ecebeingece/status/1469235256310050818
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A must-read for #AVT professionals. Would love to know your opinion (apart from the fact that it can all be fantastic as long as it involves fair prices and it's not driven by greed).
https://www.apptek.com/post/an-insiders-perspective-on-data-driven-technology-and-the-audiovisual-translation-industry -
Open-access book on #MachineTranslation for #Multilingual Citizens released for open review. Thank you for contributing!
@dorrego @bowkerl @KantanMT https://twitter.com/MultiNmt/status/1468837380845096962 -
Interesting for #AVT educators. Zoo offers a free-to-access #subtitling platform https://twitter.com/zoodigitalgroup/status/1468596768606760969
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Viewers expect to find #subtitles for all dialogue. Hence the disclaimer in a Dutch cinema "Not all Spanish dialogue is subtitled. It's a conscious decision by the filmaker"
#WestSideStory https://twitter.com/TMM1301/status/1468483605504696321 -
Do court translators switch to #subtitling in the UK @Subtle_UK? Will be fun to watch their work 😁
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10275401/Crisis-courts-shortage-skilled-translators-experts-switch-Netflix.html -
Non-US friends, if you watch #WestSideStory, pls let me know about how translation has been dealt with. Steven Spielberg's statement below makes me think there won't be any #subtitles for Spanish in any version. I wonder about the #dubbed version too https://twitter.com/StavroulaSokoli/status/1467037973287944196
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#WestSideStory seems to be targeted at bilingual people. Is Spanish another/third language in this film? Or is it a truly bilingual film, hence there is no "other/third" language? And how is this dealt with in #dubbing and #subtitling?
#L3AVT @pzabalbe @trafilmproject https://twitter.com/AdamWooten/status/1466534339999526917 -
Dizzying numbers: "The market for online #translation services continues to climb steeply upward. it’s doubled in size from 2009 to 2019, reaching $49.6 billion two years ago. The #MT market alone could be worth $230.67 in the next five years,
https://venturebeat.com/2021/12/02/smartling-lands-160m-to-help-companies-translate-their-content-automatically/amp/ -
Indeed, transparency in #MT use is not only about ethics. Seems there's a trend where LSPs ask for a "revision" (implying a human translation), when in reality it's a #MTPE job requiring different skills and different rates. https://twitter.com/sahorcas/status/1466176749843136512
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#subtitlingheadlines https://twitter.com/ataafr/status/1465599221105668101
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"Our profession is a creative one. Neural translation, as impressive as it can be, is just another tool in a skilled translator’s belt. Achieving human translation quality level through post-editing often takes as much time as doing the work from scratch:. https://twitter.com/avteur/status/1465655498955440131
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It has been a wonderful journey. Many thanks to our amazing members and to this team - so proud of you @YotaGeorg @VSosoni @PopieMatsouka Maria and Vasso! 🥰 https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1464907836232720388
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No os perdáis los trucos de @D_Santilli en el #laboratorioaudiovisual! https://twitter.com/tradugeek/status/1463855639734673409
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¡Un gran honor y placer estar #ensincronía con mis queridísimos @sharonblacktrad @b_ariasbadia @guillermosubs y @D_Santilli! No tocamos ni la mitad de lo que habíamos planeado, y podríamos estar tranquilamente tres horas más conversando sobre el presente y el futuro de la #TAV https://twitter.com/b_ariasbadia/status/1463567125021442048
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Empieza ahora: El sector de la traducción en España (II): retos sociales y económicos.
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#no_translators_shortage #fairworkingconditions https://twitter.com/atanet/status/1461448245650075649
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Viewers care about the quality of #subtitles and rate services accordingly
#DisneyPlus #Korea https://twitter.com/iheartsubtitles/status/1461270958262607874 -
This time the YouTube autogenerated #captions got it right. The human ones got it (interestingly) wrong.
#dub version vs #dumb versionThis is the video. You can change the source of the captions (English US captions vs autogenerated) under "Settings"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jy3Hz39CnU
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We often talk about the challenges in #subtitling, but there's also this kind of dialogue (the example is real)
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#AudioDescription is an art https://twitter.com/BlondeHistorian/status/1459644520421904394
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We made it to the outside world! Thank you to all for voicing out there is #no_translators_shortage and the need to #paytranslatorsmore
@AVUE_eV @Subtle_UK @ATRAE_ORG are doing an excellent work
https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2021/nov/14/where-have-all-the-translators-gone https://twitter.com/StavroulaSokoli/status/1458082642415521800 -
Why does Charlie hate #subtitles?
#L3AVT"Oh, and Kung Fu"
i.e. German, Spanish, Chinese and constructed languages are the most common third languages.
(He forgot the Mafia, I guess)
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Trilingual #Tehran bounces from Hebrew to Persian to English, while Amazon’s #ZeroZeroZero weaves seven languages into eight episodes. And Hulu’s #OnlyMurdersintheBuilding leaned on #subtitles when a character used ASL
#L3AVT @trafilmproject #multilingual
https://variety.com/2021/tv/features/acapulco-bilingual-subtitles-tehran-squid-game-1235093644/ -
#AVT world, my wall is full of people talking about #iyunosdi's claim of a "shortage of translators". But we need to get this to the outside world. We need a hashtag. How about #no_translators_shortage #paythemmore?
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Got a new bookcase for the 9yo. He looks forward to "decorating" it with plants (!) and books.
Me: You have tons of books, let's put them there.
9yo: Nah, they gotta be fake, they need to be same size and colours
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Has any of those CEOs asked himself why professionals who can deliver quality work are driven away from #subtitling and #dubbing?
https://restofworld.org/2021/lost-in-translation-the-global-streaming-boom-is-creating-a-translator-shortage/ -
If you add "specialisation", "specialization" and the "importance of specialization" you know what participants have taken away from #2021TEF https://twitter.com/translatores/status/1456651635892101128
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Not sure #translators are the ones to tell translation buyers, but they definitely need to be told
#2021TEF https://twitter.com/translatores/status/1456180912182464516 -
#2021TEF "Tech and tools are good, but what about being able to #translate without them"?
-It's also in my notes for tonight's @PEM_PAT's round table: for quality subtitles in fiction, #subtitlers need to be trained or experienced without #MT for its effective use as a tool -
#2021TEF "Specialization is good, find your niche - e.g. heating systems - but don't overdo it, you might get fed up with it."
(Thankfully it never happens with #AVT: 20+ years and I have no urge to turn to another sector)Watch the very interesting discussion here: https://youtu.be/d3lTppti9TU?t=685
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The exclusion of color or #racial identification from #AudioDescription continues to limit @accessibility for #blind people by not producing an experience similar to that of our non-blind peers who casually glean this information
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And... it's out! Wishing our new channel all the very best in it's journey!
#joinus #ESIST #AVT -
Already registered 👇 https://twitter.com/VSosoni/status/1455410298760966151
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An innovative way to deal with third languages in #subtitles?
#L3AVT @trafilmproject @pzabalbe https://twitter.com/manuelburque/status/1454534143904210945 -
#Translators or #interpreters? (Or just props for comic effect?) It's fun any way, and does resonate if you're (or have been) a terp 😅 https://twitter.com/JimmyKimmelLive/status/1453953739820126209
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#Meta as in #metafrasi #μετάφραση #translation
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Just like meta-frasi (trans-lation) μετάφραση
#Greek #etymology
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Un congrés interessantíssim, i amb una catalana com a ponent principal!
La plataforma es veu molt xula també 🤩 https://twitter.com/NavarroDescals/status/1452372472792190976 -
Adding an image of the Spanish CC for the record (records of the rest are in the article quoted in the thread above)
So, the subtitlers got it right, prob. thanks to pivot translation of correct English subtitles.
English CC is wrong, probably due to the initial error in dubbing (CC is always verbatim to audio).
Prob cause of headache: error in automatic speech recognition
#subtitlingheadlines
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I translate #subtitles in the evenings, when I'm most creative. I review them in the morning when I'm most attentive. And you?
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Anna Wyndham from @slatornews argues that #subtitlers are (and will remain) among the top essential experts in the loop, here's why 👇
https://slator.com/10-areas-translators-will-remain-essential-experts-in-the-loop/"Using [subtitling technology] may be helpful, or not"
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Indeed, in conventional subtitling there are no footnotes. But there is another practice, very popular in China, called #danmu, scrolling text covering almost all of the screen, with all sorts of explanations and feedback by participants. Some viewers might enjoy them, but not sure about the rest.
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A very thorough course, covering all aspects of a good quality #subtitling #template. Highly recommended. https://twitter.com/AvtMasterclass/status/1451475916262199316
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My utmost admiration to the French Unions. The rest of common folk are terrorized with prison sentence if they as much as mention minimum acceptable fees. https://twitter.com/fxdurandy/status/1450722315512291330
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Spreadsheets like Excel are for numbers and data, not texts. When are we going to stop using them for translations?
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"Verbosity relates to length" - But what about diff speaking speeds? Anybody read the referenced article to see how they address this?
PS1: Humans preferred videos dubbed without verbosity control
PS2: They use AD for #AutomaticDubbing, really confusing
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Ahí está el problema de la posedición resumido.
Y hay que distinguir entre la #posedición y el uso de la #TraducciónAutomática como herramienta (sin bajar tarifas y traduciendo desde cero) en manos de expertos. https://twitter.com/ATRAE_ORG/status/1448891885213343755 -
Being an #AVT geek is to arrange a watch party with a colleague to watch... a recorded webinar on #subtitling 🤓
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Μην ξεχνιόμαστε:
"Ένας άλλος λόγος που #ΤοΠαιχνίδιΤουΚαλαμαριού έχει γίνει παγκόσμιο φαινόμενο είναι η προσβασιμότητά του. Το Netflix προσφέρει υπότιτλους σε 37 γλώσσες"
https://www.iefimerida.gr/zoi/netflix-giati-oloi-blepoyn-paihnidi-toy-kalamarioy -
For English-speaking audiences, access to so much foreign content is unprecedented.
For the non-English speaking world most foreign content is in English, so this is quite new too.
The difference is familiarity with #subtitles or #dubbing -
Wonderfully uplifting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yq2N-9EmedA -
The discussion on #SquidGame subtitles have highlighted the importance of indirect (or pivot) #subtitling and #dubbing. #AVT researchers, this special issue is for you. https://twitter.com/indirec_trans/status/1440998453815951360
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Watching a tutorial on #subtitle light #postediting: "Avoid watching the video, because it will take a lot of your time".
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Very happy and proud to be a translator! Why? It's in the video 😀
#InternationalTranslationDay -
Very happy and proud to be a translator! Why? It's in the video 😀
#InternationalTranslationDay https://twitter.com/deluxe1915/status/1443612599338291204 -
Happy #InternationalTranslationDay! https://twitter.com/translatores/status/1443493545298444288
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At last I found how to #Zoom and ride my bike (slide right on the app). Haven't found a hands-free (voice command) yet.
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How can I eliminate #MachineTranslated web pages from #Google search results?
Asking for me. And a friend.
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In an interview, disclaimer by journalist: "Responses have been edited for clarity and length"
Feeling I should write this to my #subtitle reviewer this week. -
Anybody arriving late to the conference and having to watch presentations at double speed?
#LAM21 -
The last phrase of the #AudioDescription for #NinePerfectStrangers last episode is wrong. It should be "she", not "they". @zoodigitalgroup could you pls look at it?
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Nothing can compare to the onsite experience, but there's one thing I would keep from online conferences: the chat during live presentations. Lots of cool coversations
#LAM21
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Researchers on pivot audiovisual translation, looking forward to your contributions! https://twitter.com/indirec_trans/status/1440998453815951360
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When was your first #languagesmedia conference?
In 1998 online conferences were not much discussed.
@LMconference
#LAM21Did you know that @ESIST_official subscription has not changed in 20 years? 100DM=50€
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On my watchlist after #LAM21, @JanPedersen1969's speech on #MT and #subtitling at #tic2021 https://twitter.com/translatores/status/1440567968740491269
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Konstantin Dranch urges #subtitlers to become experts in subtitle #PostEditing, as there are not many, it's a niche. Thoughts?
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A recurrent topic in #LAM21 https://twitter.com/JanPedersen1969/status/1440594781646721024
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Hi @AdanTrad and @GabyScandura! Nice you're sitting next to each other :D
#LAM21
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#AugmentedTranslation as opposed to #MTPE #PostEditing. A way to avoid brain-drain in #MediaLocalization https://twitter.com/carol_osullivan/status/1440307845262544898
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Check out @carol_osullivan's tweets on #LAM21
(impressive use of simultaneous tweeting and Zoom chatting - Hats off!) https://twitter.com/carol_osullivan/status/1440297592026374145 -
Very happy and proud to be chairing a panel with such brilliant experts on #MediaLocalization #Workflows. Join Mazin Al-Jumaili from ZOO Digital Group plc, Joshua Martin and Yelena Makarczyk from Take 1, a Verbit company, and Joss Moorkens from Dublin City University this afternoon at 5pm CET at Languages & The Media and ask your questions!
#LAM21
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#Subtitlers attending #LAM21 you NEED to join this session! https://twitter.com/StavroulaSokoli/status/1439957368410886149
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See you there! #LAM21 @LMconference https://twitter.com/sharonblacktrad/status/1439868392811421697
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Checking out the @LMconference virtual conference platform. Looks like it's going to be a seamless experience, all in one place - plus you can book one-to-one meetings with other participants and speakers. Anybody wants to chat?
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#Spain, a #dubbing country. https://twitter.com/juanmafdez/status/1438063500656578562
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Muy orgullosa de mi colega y amigo @guillermosubs no solo por las ideas sino también por la implementación. Mirad qué hilo con fotos y todo 👇 https://twitter.com/guillermosubs/status/1436299815936212992
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#L3AVT @trafilmproject https://twitter.com/AVUE_eV/status/1435508541306064900
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Double sets if subtitles can be taxing, some film critics say.
#subtitlingheadlines
RT @AVUE_eV with thanks
https://variety.com/2021/film/global/venice-film-festival-english-subtitles-1235056813/ -
Got mine, look forward to reading it! https://twitter.com/MargheDore25/status/1432710076150816775
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Why is it hard to recruit qualified freelance translators? Maybe something to do with rates? https://twitter.com/FIT_Europe/status/1430807470872612867
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A disclaimer that should appear on all websites offering machine-translated content.
#MTdisclaimer
#MT https://twitter.com/huang_boyi/status/1429707571351461898 -
How the #streaming boom is transforming the #LatinAmerican #dubbing market.
#remotedubbing
https://www.vsi.tv/newsdetail/growth-in-latin-american-dubbing-market -
Preparing for the #LAM21 conference #ridingthewave
#languagesmedia #beingliteral
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#ilovemyjob, but when the client sends back supposed inconsistencies discovered through #GoogleTranslate, not so much.
Pls don't use GoogleTranslate to back-translate and check a human translation.
And pls don't use Excel to send those comments.
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”You see big international movies with #subtitles getting big awards[...] The Parasites of this world show that non-English speaking films can actually make really good headway".
RT @Subtle_UK with thanks
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Using 3 #MT engines to translate a tourist brochure full of clichés (EN>EL). #DeepL is amazing (=fluent), #AmazonTranslate is OK and, surprisingly, #GoogleNMT is the worst (=literal).
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Seems I agree with most #subtitlers who took this survey
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Great line-up, not to be missed! https://twitter.com/LMconference/status/1417595951737364489
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Automatic #transcription tools for various languages (not just the big five).
Any feedback would be greatly appreciated!
#ASR #speech_to_text
https://www.happyscribe.com/https://transcribe.wreally.com/
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Users will be able to use #AI-generated drafts as a starting point for their #transcripts in many languages. In the future TED-specific AI models will be integrated, as well as translation memory tools.
#MT #TM #subtitling
RT @dorrego with thanks
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I'm attending Languages & the Media 2021 - 13th International Conference & Exhibition. Care to join?
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COVID restrictions means meeting on the beach. Not bad! https://twitter.com/erasmusread19/status/1413417066791677956
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First face-to-face project meeting in this complicated Covid era. https://twitter.com/erasmusread19/status/1413053760650219523
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Every researcher's dream come true (OK, one of them ) https://twitter.com/AnnaMJankowska/status/1413153843295236097
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Way to go @othbcn, @psgijon and team! https://twitter.com/MultiNmt/status/1412653605249859586
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#GoogleTranslate works in mysterious ways. Depending on the surrounding text I may become Doctor F. Chocolate.
(the first five letters of my surname coincide with those of chocolate - Σοκολάτα)
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#MT in #subtitling:
#Netflix is calling it #AssistedTranslation.
Also known as #TranslationAid in other contexts. https://twitter.com/sahorcas/status/1324694077926002689 -
If you're looking for a film with an extraordinary number of overlapping dialogue, #HorribleBosses2 is one good example. Excellent #subtitling skills needed for spotting and cueing. Lots of puns too.
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"A new authoring specification enables a seamless exchange of #script files between various tools in the #localization pipeline".
Currently piloted in #dubbing workflows, useful for #subtitling too.
Sounds promising, congrats @abushawarab @WeAreNetflix
https://netflixtechblog.com/introducing-netflix-timed-text-authoring-lineage-6fb57b72ad41 -
Gutted to have to cancel my participation in the #TranslationCafé due to unfortunate personal circumstances. Speakers are excellent and it's going to be a great event. Do register if you haven't. https://twitter.com/LetsTalkXl8/status/1394987343103283203
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When correcting students' work, I sometimes catch myself thinking "Why should I spend my time pointing out the errors and explaining what's wrong if they dedicate 0 time to read instructions, take care of the text, check the spelling, grammar, syntax, and send a decent file?"
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The exam is about to start.
-Student: Is it OK if I get up to stir the food from time to time so that it doesn't burn?
-Me: Well, we're sitting for exams, could somebody else care about the food?
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Unintended #danmu effect.
#subtitles #annotations
#subtitlinghitstheheadlines https://twitter.com/FeldmanAdam/status/1400562488463216642 -
After the backlash from #AVT assiciations and professional #subtitlers, @EUscreen responds with a (clarifying?) message regarding the subtitle-a-thon organised https://twitter.com/EUscreen/status/1397271037646094339
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Global stories locally retold and vice versa. Add multilingualism to the mix and there you have the present (and future?) of AV content https://twitter.com/THR/status/1396814138798661635
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Have more questions than answers (let alone decision-making abilities), but it will be an honour and a great pleasure to discuss #creativity and #subtitling with such high calibre experts! Many thanks to @sararamospinto1, and hope to see you all there 😀 https://twitter.com/LetsTalkXl8/status/1394987343103283203
@JanPedersen1969 and @RitiMenezes, I'm counting on you! 😉
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Dear #literary #translators, if your goal is fluency and fluidity, try reading your text aloud during the final revision.
To researchers: do audio-book translations improve during recording? Like #dubbing scripts, which are often improved in the rec studio? https://twitter.com/StavroulaSokoli/status/1394224171153043461 -
Been night-reading #HarryPotter to the 9 year old. In Greek. And correcting the #translation on the fly, wondering why are there so many awkwardly phrased, clumsy bits. Maybe I should be recording this and send it to the publishers?
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Brand new project: Online training for the language industries. Stay tuned. https://twitter.com/FOIL_Project/status/1392513376769691649
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Spanish dialogue into English #subtitles by @AppTek_McLean #MT
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Way to go Women in Localization - Greece Chapter!
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The creative team has asked me to translate a title into Greek. Then they sent me the graphic they produced and will insert in the film, to check. Been staring at it for five minutes. Three words. Am I absolutely sure?
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Don't forget that if there is something wrong with the #subtitles, there is always something you can do to help https://twitter.com/Netflixhelps/status/1388800759282733058
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#Subtitlers & #AVT #researchers in the room, what do you think about this?
"The average number of #subtitles per minute is determined to be between 14 and 15".
Does this match your experience?
@JorgeDiazCintas @ASzarkowska @JanPedersen1969 @JanLKruger @dorrego @AVUE_eV @atav_pt -
Look at the #subtitler sweating, we still don't know what the final characters-per-line number will be, we hope the sentence will fit... oh the suspense... she is still writing... And yes! The line is green! [crowd cheers]
#sportscaster #subtitling https://twitter.com/integlangsbiz/status/1388035474388918276 -
Evaluating student's essays I confirm once again that when presentation (format etc) is taken care of, the content is usually good as well. Conclusion? Dear students, take care of the presentation; your tutors are biased and it's not their fault, it's a repetitive pattern.
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Uh oh.... #subtitling vs #dubbing.
In any case, from an Anglophone perspective, being exposed to the sound of other languages seems to be the right choice. https://twitter.com/rickygervais/status/1385324817759485954 -
US intelligence is funding research to develop a system that can find, translate and summarise information from any low-resource language.
But breaking down language barriers could bring benefits that go far beyond the intelligence agencies
#NMT
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Well explained #subtitlingcareer https://twitter.com/ShephaliBhatt/status/1382371005159542787
@tradumila
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#Venuti on #subtitling and instrumentalism. Talking about #subtitles as if they were an autonomous text and the image as the context. (not!)
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Always happy to share, especially when subtitling makes headlines for all the good reasons 🤓
#subtitlingheadlines https://twitter.com/SubtitleNEXT/status/1384166537083252750 -
Sometimes #subtitling hits the headlines for all the good reasons. #Minari is one of those cases where #subtitles are not viewed as a barrier.
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How do translators prepare for future challenges? According to the #WLGR #collectiveintelligence workshop, translators can be the ones to drive the changes. We need to be informed and adaptive. https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1382676892197785602
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In the olden days, researchers (AKA poor students) used to spend hours at the library photocopying articles from the (few) journals on #translation. And now you can read FOR FREE and search without having to physically open each booklet 🤪 https://termcoord.eu/2021/04/free-online-access-to-meta-journal-des-traducteurs-translators-journal/
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A veces las series nos escogen, no las escogemos 😂 https://twitter.com/tradumila/status/1381971479131213832
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In the reality show I'm reviewing, one character speaks in strings of incoherent words. The #subtitler initially tried to render them in coherent subtitles. Thankfully we got a message from the creative team that they should be omitted. I'm sure non-English viewers will get why!
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I can totally believe (and relate) to that. Research needs uninterrupted sessions of ntensive thinking, impossible with two school-kids and a pet. #firstworldproblems https://twitter.com/libripotens/status/1380107271192072193
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Volunteering for #womeninlocalization means taking part in an adventure, such as a #collectiveintelligence workshop. Technical aspect covered, now anxiously waiting for the 200 registered participants' ideas on how to #becomethenewchallenger in #localization https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1379698683583856641
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#Film #censorship https://twitter.com/manori_r/status/1379756366806577154
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"Netflix originals tend to have fewer specific cultural references than shows produced by domestic competitors, according to Enders, a market analyst". Not sure about that 🤔
https://oltnews.com/how-netflix-is-%E2%80%8B%E2%80%8Bcreating-a-common-european-culture -
Interesting #app for #timecoding and reviewing #translated #scripts and #transcriptions
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Dear #translators: pls don't fight over prices. You are probably working in a different translation market segment and/or different position. This excellent article will help you understand where you stand. Who knows? Understanding may help you change it.
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Dream job
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If you didn't know, now you know. 🇬🇷
#GreekIndependenceDay #Greece200years
Χρόνια πολλά! https://twitter.com/EUCouncil/status/1375002012731990017 -
This is huge: @avteur to take part in the
@EU_Commission dialogue with the cultural sector, as one of the 47 participants from all cultural and creative fields.
#AVT professionals recognized as cultural and creative professionals
http://avteurope.eu/2021/03/23/voices-of-culture-avte-selected
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Just got a request for a copy of this 20-year-old paper, which is completely irrelevant today. But then again, she might be doing some kind of historical research, so I'll just send it: https://ddd.uab.cat/record/4828
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Μεταφράστριες και μεταφραστές, από όποια θέση κι αν ασχολείστε με το επάγγελμα, ελάτε να δούμε μαζί τις προκλήσεις του μέλλοντος, σε μια εκδήλωση που θα τα έχει όλα 🌟 https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1373944000755986432
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Choose a country, choose a local radio, fly and listen http://flyandlisten.com
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We set up a collaborative space for co-authoring an article, so that each can work at our own time. It turns out all three of us are simultaneously editing and answering comments. And it's so much fun!
@JanPedersen1969 @RitiMenezes
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Huge news, #Greek added among supported languages in #DeepL. https://twitter.com/ringlada/status/1372889631927250944
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#Translation hits the headlines, this time with the case of #AmandaGorman. A heated debate and such an abundance of articles that it's difficult to follow, but one thing is for sure: #TranslatorVisibility is brought forward. Hopefully for the best - when it all calms down.
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#Multilingualism and #subtitles #L3AVT @trafilmproject @pzabalbe
Very interesting article (if we just ignore the hideous title)
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Exactly: Community, Support, Teamwork, plus Fun!
@YotaGeorg @VSosoni @PopieMatsouka Vasso Pouli, Maria Gialama @WLGreece! https://twitter.com/WomenInL10N/status/1368887984486035459 -
Nothing better than actively celebrating #internationalwomensday #IWD2021 https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1368688643905355782
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Translation should be invisible, but not translators. Personal and collective translator visibility and acknowledgement is the only way to self-fulfillment, professional recognition and decent rates.
Here's an excellent take on the necessity of #translatorvisibility
https://amp.theguardian.com/books/2021/sep/10/why-translators-should-be-named-on-book-covers
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Dethroning the term #creativesubtitling to refer to the practice of free-form (non-standard, unconventional artistic) subtitles is going to be extremely challenging. It's not only in the bibliography, but it is also taught in subtitling courses. https://twitter.com/JanPedersen1969/status/1365590206531981313
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Making history. Are you in? #FreeFormSubtitling https://twitter.com/JanPedersen1969/status/1365591954940166148
"Free-form subtitles" yield 0 results in Google
But #chatGTP knows a lot about #freeformsubtitles #freeformsubtitling
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Rendering #L3AVT not meant to be understood, by nonsensical subtitle fonts
https://vimeo.com/192354157#creativesubtitling
Thanks, @MaxDeryagin!
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Looking for a subject in #AVT and #accessibility research? Here is a list by @AlineRemael to keep you busy for the next 20 years. #TRADAC #AudioDescription
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What is equitable, equivalent experience? What is privileged information? Is it possible to make this distinction? @AlineRemael says that it isn't.
Describing colour is always an issue, for example. https://twitter.com/carol_osullivan/status/1365340240983056389
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Subtitling pro-tip: you can totally skip simulation if you want. Like you can skip showering. If you love being avoided by others. https://t.co/8Y8T4ZscfD
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I've been looking for this! Tells you where you can watch a particular show or movie online whether it's Amazon, Disney, Netflix, Roku or whatever.
Thanks @ShiraOvide
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Networking is important and it works in ways we can't even imagine. Never stop talking about your job, letting others know what you do or if you are looking for new opportunities. They may come from where you least expect them.
That big thank you email I got today from a person I only met once really made my day :)
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#Subtitulación incluida en el terremoto de #Netflix https://twitter.com/BetetaUnion/status/1341414172362498049
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Nunca mejor dicho. Esos metrics dichosos hacen que se premien las traducciones más sosas https://twitter.com/AuletM/status/1363422484922564608
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Very interesting.
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At last, a show with a #subtitler as a protagonist, a dream come true 🤩
Nice to see our thoughts and discussions become film dialogue
¡Gracias, @tradumila!
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Duckling (παπάκι). No idea why. https://twitter.com/TradosJames/status/1362063029203001347
Λέγεται πως οι παλιοί προγραμματιστές το ονόμασαν "πι" καθώς τους θύμιζε την καλλιτεχνική μορφή του αντίστοιχου γράμματος. Όταν υπήρχαν δύο @@ το ένα δίπλα απ' το άλλο, ο συλλαβισμός θα ήταν "πι-πι", που θυμίζει το ποιηματάκι "Πι-πι, το παπί".
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Hola, investigadores de #TAV: Si os interesa averiguar la hipótesis de Paula, tengo material de hace 20 años para que lo comparéis (DVD, VHS).
Confirmo que la segmentación y la omisión han mejorado. https://twitter.com/paumariani/status/1361668025926230029 -
Me too when working with closed templates. Especially bad ones, fragmented in a thousand one-second little flashes they call #subtitles https://twitter.com/AuletM/status/1361632113716568074
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It's time to talk about mental health issues. The young are the most affected
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Dear translators/interpreters/subtitlers and associations are there minimum prices set in your respective countries? Or something like recommended prices? @ATRAE_ORG @ATA_AVDivision @atav_pt @ataafr @avteur @AVUE_eV @FIT_Europe
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Way to go Spanish Translators' Twitterverse giving visibility to the profession! #Traduboom is a thing and I wonder where it started. Many students have jumped in, so maybe translation university faculty?
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And subtitles are meant to be part of this chemistry
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Next time you think "It's all Greek to me" 😁
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I'm celebrating the International #GreekLanguageDay by updating a spellchecker used by dozens of subtitlers. How about you?
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It seems that you can't be a self-respecting social media manager if you don't have an Instagram account. Here's to more online presence then.
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#L3AVT @trafilmproject @pzabalbe @miquelpt @guillermosubs https://twitter.com/ESIST_official/status/1358787782542581760
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And pls note that in the item about technologies, by "dubbing" and "subtitling" they mean "dubbing tools" and "subtitling tools" respectively. Thanks for sharing! https://twitter.com/WLGreece/status/1358455595985235977
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The joy when you find a solution to a wordplay! Ham and hammer. Thinking, thank goodness, only the ham appears on screen, so I can play with hammer.
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If you read lots of therefore's and nevertheless's, chances are the writer is not a native English speaker.
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I should be in Barcelona this weekend. Relaxing after a wonderful #m4all9, seeing friends, getting ready for classes at @bsm_upf. Oh well
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How to solve the problem of translating other languages in films and series.
Patrick Zabalbeascoa on #L3 in #AVT https://twitter.com/pzabalbe/status/1355520407240138753 -
Hey, people who like to chop sentences in order to stick to the #cps. Has it ever occurred to you that a full sentence might be faster to read than an elliptic one? If you have to re-read, it'll take longer, won't it?
#subtitling #readability #StickingToTheSpiritOfTheLawMind you, I'm a big fan of ellipsis. But.
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If there is no indication by the director, it's up to the #subtitler to decide whether the speaker is addressing someone formally or informally. It depends on the setting (e.g. court), the relationship, but also on the speaker's attitude (being controversial in a formal setting)
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I wish I was translating into a language with a fixed word order like English. I sometimes feel most of my time in #subtitling is spent rearranging words to make the phrase sound better.
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Excellent initiative, thanks @avteur.
@PEM_PAT, shall we spread the word? https://twitter.com/avteur/status/1352218445799182338 -
Anybody knows what's the story behind the guideline "subtitles shouldn't start with digits"? Origins?
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Some results from @memadproject's research on #subtitlers' perception using #MT (>10 subjects, English to Finnish)
Looking forward to reading the publications
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#GameTranslation hits the headlines. Bringing together professionals and amateurs to work in a translation project? @SupergiantGames tried it out and here's the backlash, as reported by @AndyChalk
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Anybody using the Google pronunciation feature? With @abolgaresc we just inserted it in a lesson plan for #dubbing activity for #LanguageLearning
#Tradilex #AVTforFLL
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I miss waiting in line for coffee. Best chats ever. https://twitter.com/PolicyRelevant/status/1350824838542336001
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"Different-colored #subtitles help us non-Asian-language speakers follow as the dialogue switches between Japanese and Korean."
#L3AVT #creativesubtitling applied in standard subtitling https://twitter.com/AdanTrad/status/1350223209195573248 -
How about that? #Netflix SM taking a stance on the #dubbing vs #subtitling debate https://twitter.com/NetflixUK/status/1348684349105958920
There seems to be this idea that subtitling is good and wholesome, whereas dubbing is for the lazy?
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Reading the Iliad again after decades, with the 12yo. Had forgotten that #Mentor was the name of Telemachus's adviser, who was actually the goddess Athena in disguise.
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How #Netflix deals with dialects
#L3AVT @trafilmproject @pzabalbe
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Every time a reporter writes "USA, the oldest democracy in the world" and "USA, the heart of democracy", a Greek kitten dies.
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Professional perversion is when you watch #Netflix's #HeadspaceGuidetoMeditation and instead of doing the breathing, you're looking at the 32 audio language versions 🤓
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Started watching the whole episode before #subtitling it. Following the advice I give to students this time - otherwise it's impossible with this cryptic, enigmatic series I'm working on.
@paumariani 😉😉😉